4940. On another occasion, when ringed by a column of angels I was taken down to the places where lower things exist, and then my senses perceived that those living in the land of lower things corresponded to the feet and soles of the feet. Those places are also located beneath the feet and soles of the feet. I also spoke to those there. They are the kind of people in whom natural delight has existed, but no spiritual delight. Regarding this lower earth, see 4728.