Spiritual Experiences (Odhner) n. 2464

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2464. By experience: a human on earth, and a spirit, or an angel, bring about nothing of themselves, yet they think they do things on their own

So that I would know that I bring about nothing on my own, I was shown by experience that in whatever I did the ability of choosing was slipped in at the same time. This ability was slipped in and the consequent reflection that caused spirits to suppose that I could have done differently, which they did not want. (It was [the choice between] a broken piece of almond bread, or the whole of it.) I was prompted to say that I could not do otherwise, even though it seemed due to the ability to choose that I could have done differently. About this there was a conversation with spirits who still thought I could have done otherwise, but they were also shown that they themselves were unable to speak differently, and it was easy to say they could have, but I was allowed to tell them they could not. I saw that they were being influenced. So by one experience, and yet another, it was corroborated that one cannot make the slightest little movement of the body from oneself, nor can a spirit either.


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