2109. While they were in that state, that is, enraptured with delight, they were raised up into heaven among the heavenly angels, for as long as that condition lasts, they are as if put to sleep in regard to their outer, bodily elements and fantasies, which come to rest at that time. They suppose that they are in heaven, as they also said, and they are still there. But when that state ceases, they return to their first conditions, which happens gradually and slowly, so as not to harm the heavenly spirits, and not to be harmed themselves. I heard one saying that he saw something he could not express, no doubt the troubled state of mind, the anxiety, and the like, of those returning into their fantasies and desires. Meanwhile, one of them spoke with me while still there, saying that now for the first time he was feeling how much joy there is in heaven, and that he had been extremely beguiled. They had held a different view of heavenly beings, namely, as having no sensation or perception-something they had previously often supposed and spoken for. Whereas now they are feeling these beings' own innermost sensation of joy, immeasurably greater than the enjoyments in bodily life, which he says he now despises, realizing what dirt and filth it is that gives them pleasure. What more can a spirit have, he said, than the full awareness of those joys that reach them only in heaven, because they touch and, so to speak, belong to, the inward parts, being perceived by inner sensation.